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Edward Finn (1839 – 1911)

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Edward Finn was born in 1839 to John and Jane Finn in Hawkinge, Folkestone

1841 Census

This is the 1841 census for the family

John Finn – 28 (1813) – Agricultural labourer – Folkestone, Kent

Jane Finn – 28 (1813) – Folkestone, Kent

Edwd Finn – 2 (1839) – Folkestone, Kent

Harriette Finn – 5 Months – Folkestone, Kent

Class: HO107; Piece: 478; Book: 2; Civil Parish: Hawkinge; County: Kent; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 4; Page: 16; Line: 21; GSU roll: 306873

1851 Census

Here is the family in the 1851 census living in the same area of Hawkinge.

John Finn – Head – 39 (1812) – Agricultural labourer – Alkham, Kent

Jane Finn – Wife – 39 (1813) – Eastry, Kent

Edward Finn – Son – 11 (1840) – Folkestone, Kent

Harriett Finn – Daughter – 10 (1841) – Hawkinge, Kent

Stephen Finn – Son – 7 (1844) – Hawkinge, Kent

Mary Finn – Daughter – 5 (1846) – Hawkinge, Kent

Jane Finn – Daughter – 3 (1848) – Hawkinge, Kent

Thomas Finn – Son – 1 (1850) – Hawkinge, Kent

Class: HO107; Piece: 1633; Folio: 15; Page: 22; GSU roll: 193536

1861 Census

Here is the 1861 census for the family living in the same area. Harriett Finn is a servant in Hawkinge Hall.

John Finn – Head – 50 (1811) – Agricultural labourer – Coldred, Kent

Jane Finn – Wife – 47 (1814) – Eastry, Kent

Edward Finn – Son – 21 (1840) – Agricultural labourer – Folkestone, Kent

Thomas Finn – Son – 11 (1850) – Hawkinge, Kent

Sarah Finn – Daughter – 8 (1853) – Hawkinge, Kent

George Finn – Son – 6 (1855) – Scholar – Hawkinge, Kent

William Finn Son – 3 (1858) – Hawkinge, Kent

Class: Rg 9; Piece: 551; Folio: 235; Page: 2; GSU roll: 542660

I am unsure what has happened to the other children from the 1851 census, it is likely that they have died.

1871 Census

In 1863 Edward married Maria Lincoln, here they are living in the Hawkinge area.

Edward Finn – Head – 32 (1839) – Agricultural labourer – Folkestone, Kent

Maria Finn – Wife – 29 (1842) – Barweston, Kent

William Finn – Son – 8 (1863) – Scholar – Folkestone, Kent

Elizabeth Finn – Daughter – 6 (1865) – Folkestone, Kent

Thomas Finn – Son – 3 (1868) – Folkestone, Kent

Frederick Finn – Son – 1 (1870) – Folkestone, Kent

1871 England Census; Class: RG10; Piece: 1016; Folio: 9; Page: 10; GSU roll: 827264

1881 Census

Here is the family in 1881 living in the same area

Edward Finn – Head – 48 (1833) – Agricultural labourer – Folkestone, Kent

Maria Finn – Wife – 38 (1843) – Barfreston, Kent

Thomas Finn – Son – 13 (1868) – Hawkinge, Kent

Frederick Finn – Son – 11 (1870) – Scholar – Hawkinge, Kent

Alfred Finn – Son – 9 (1872) – Hawkinge, Kent

Jane Finn – Daughter – 8 (1873) – Hawkinge, Kent

Phoebe Finn – Daughter – 6 (1875) – Hawkinge, Kent

Edmund Finn – Son – 4 (1877) – Folkestone, Kent

Dick Finn – Son – 3 (1878) – Folkestone, Kent

George Finn – Son – 5 Months – Hawkinge, Kent

William Brisby – Servant – 42 – Farm Servant (Indoor) – Margate, Kent

Charles Birch – Servant – 15 – Farm Servant (Indoor) – Swingfield, Kent

Class: RG11; Piece: 1011; Folio: 15; Page: 19; GSU roll: 1341240

1891 Census

It took me a while to find the 1891 census return as the surname had been mistranscribed as ‘Feuss’

Edward Finn – Head – 52 (1839) – Folkestone, Kent

Maria Finn – Wife 48 (1843) – Barferstone, Kent

Dick Finn – Son – 13 (1878) – Scholar – Hawkinge, Kent

George Finn – Son – 10 (1881) – Folkestone, Kent

Albert Finn – Son – 9 (1882) – Dullingver, Kent

Census Returns of England and Wales, 1891; Class: RG12; Piece: 751; Folio: 61; Page: 2; GSU roll: 6095861

1901 Census

By the 1901 census all the children have left and Edward and Maria are living in Capel le Ferne which is only a few minutes away from their previous residence in Hawkinge.

Edward Finn – Head – 62 (1839) – Agricultural labourer – Folkestone, Kent

Maria Finn – Wife – 58 (1843) – Barkestone, Kent

Class: RG13; Piece: 845; Folio: 23; Page: 3

In 1902 Maria Finn died.

1911 Census

This is an interesting census, Edward Finn is in Woking with his two sons and married daughter.

Charles Partington – Head – 45 (1866) – Plate Layer (L. S. W. R) – Yetminster, Dorset

Annie Partington – Wife – 43 (1868) – Folkestone, Kent

Cissie Partington – Daughter – 12 (1899) – School – Woking, Surrey

Arthur Partington – Nurse Child – 18 Months – Guildford, Surrey

Edward Finn – Visitor (Relative) – 72 (1838) – Farm Labourer (Widowed) – Folkstone, Kent

George Finn – Visitor (Relative) – 29 (1882) – Railway Porter – Folkstone, Kent

Charles Finn – Visitor (Relative) – 24 (1887) – Butchers Assistant – Folkestone, Kent

Class: RG14; Schedule Number: 271

Annie Partington (nee Finn) married Charles Partington in 1890 and only has one child.

I believe Annie is possibly Elizabeth Finn from the 1871 census going by her middle name, or she is an older daughter that was not living at home during the 1871 census.

There is history of family members changing their names, Edward and Maria’s eldest child is shown as William Finn but his name was registered at birth as George Edmund Finn. An article in the 1892 London Gazette confirms this.

Postmen, William George Finn, otherwise George Edmund Finn (Pontypridd) […]

The London Gazette, October 14, 1892; Issue: 26334; Page: 5752;

Edward Finn died in April 1911 aged 72

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Henry Butcher (1846 – 1921)

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Henry Butcher was born in Easton in Gordano, Somerset, in 1846 to Thomas and Elizabeth Butcher

1841 Census

This is the 1841 Census for the family living in Easton in Gordano.

Thomas Butcher – 35 (1806) – Labourer – St George, Somerset

Eliza Butcher – 30 (1811) – Washerwoman – St George, Somerset

George Butcher – 4 (1837) – St George, Somerset

Joseph Butcher – 4 (1837) – St George, Somerset

Class: HO107; Piece: 956; Book: 5; Enumeration District: 4; Folio: 37; Page: 28; Line: 12; GSU roll: 474603

1851 Cenus

In 1851 Henry Butcher was living with another family, this could be a relative of his parents.

Ann Thomas – Head – 41 (1810) – Washerwoman/Pauper – Somerset, St George

William Thomas – Son – 21 (1830) – Agriculture labourer – Somerset, St George

Charlotte Thomas – Daughter – 13 (1838) Scholar – Somerset, St George

James Eversett – Lodger – 32 (1819) – Agriculture labourer – Somerset, St George

Henry Butcher – Visitor – 5 (1846) – Somerset, St George

Class: HO107; Piece: 1946; Folio: 623; Page: 21; GSU roll: 221106

This is the 1851 census for Henry’s family. From my searches Henry’s father died in February 1851, this could be why Henry is with this family.

Eliza Butcher – Head – 38 (1813) – Charwoman/Pauper – Somerset, St. George

George Butcher – Son – 13 (1838) – Somerset, St George

William Butcher – Son – 10 (1841) – Somerset, St George

Charles Butcher – Son – 11 months – Somerset, St George

Class: HO107; Piece: 1946; Folio: 621; Page: 16; GSU roll: 221106

1861 Census

For the 1861 census Henry is back with his family.

Eliza Butcher – Head – 51 (1810) – Charwoman – Pill, St George

William Butcher – Son – 20 (1841) – Agriculture labourer – Pill, St George

Henry Butcher – Son – 15 (1846) – Agriculture labourer – Pill, St George

Charles Butcher – Son – 11 (1850) – Scholar – Pill, St George

Class: RG 9; Piece: 1711; Folio: 53; Page: 15; GSU roll: 542854

In 1871 Charles Butcher married Emily Berry.

1871 Census

In 1867 Henry Butcher married Sarah Bull, here they are living in Pill in 1871.

Henry Butcher – Head – 25 (1846) – Agriculture labourer – Somerset, St George

Sarah A. Butcher – Wife – 25 (1846) – Somerset, St George

Thomas W. Butcher – Son – 2 months – Somerset, St George

Class: RG10; Piece: 2517; Folio: 44; Page: 10; GSU roll: 835250

1881 Census

Here is Henry and Sarah still living in the Pill/Easton in Gordano area, this time they are living in Hamgreen.

Henry Butcher – Head – 35 (1846) – Labourer – St George, Somerset

Sarah A. Butcher – Wife – 35 (1846) – Laundress – St George, Somerset

George H. Butcher – Son – 12 (1869) – Scholar – St George

Elizabeth A. Butcher – Daughter – 5 (1876) – Scholar – Cinderford East Dean, Gloucestershire

Mary A. Butcher – Daughter – 2 (1879) – Hamgreen, Somerset

William J. Butcher – Son – 7 months – Hamgreen, Somerset

Class: RG11; Piece: 2463; Folio: 86; Page: 18; GSU roll: 1341593

In 1890 George Butcher married Rose Sutton.

1891 Census

By the 1891 Henry and Sarah Butcher and their children had moved to Avonmouth.

Henry Butcher – Head – 45 (1846) – General Labourer – Easton in Gordano, Somerset

Sarah A. Butcher – Wife – 45 (1846) – Easton in Gordano, Somerset

Eliza A. Butcher – Daughter – 15 (1876) – Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

Mary A. Butcher – Daughter – 12 (1879) – Easton in Gordano, Somerset

Alice E. Butcher – Daughter – 9 (1882) – Easton in Gordano, Somerset

Edward E. Butcher – Son – 7 (1884) – Easton in Gordano, Somerset

Sidney J. Butcher – Son – 4 (1887) – Easton in Gordano, Somerset

Class: RG12; Piece: 1990; Folio: 33; Page: 8; GSU roll: 6097100

In 1898 Elizabeth Butcher married Frederick Lambourne

In February 1901 Edward Butcher died aged 16 years old.

1901 Census

Henry Butcher – Head – 55 (1846) – Dock Labourer – St George, Somerset

Sarah A. Butcher – Wife – 55 (1846) – St George, Somerset

Mary A. Butcher – Daughter – 23 (1878) – St George, Somerset

Sidney J. Butcher – Son – 14 (1887) – Office Boy (Port) – St George, Somerset

Harry Butcher – Son – 8 (1893) – Avonmouth, Gloucestershire

Class: RG13; Piece: 2404; Folio: 55; Page: 15

In the 1901 Alice Butcher is shown as a visitor in the Gratton household in Rhondda, Glamorgan. In 1902 Alice married George Gratton.

In 1902 Mary Butcher married Richard Sutton and in 1909 Sidney married Laura Woolford

1911 Census

Henry Butcher – Head – 65 (1845) – Dock Labourer – Pill, Somerset

Sarah A. Butcher – Wife – 65 (1846) – Pill, Somerset

Harry Butcher – Son – 19 (1892) – Dock Labourer – Avonmouth, Gloucestershire

Class: RG14; Piece: 15104; Schedule Number: 172

This census tells us that Henry and Sarah Butcher were married for 45 years, and that they had 11 children born alive and 6 are still living.

From my searches and that census returns I have found 10 children, and have only confirmed the death of one child.

In 1919 Harry Butcher marries Ethal Buller. I have found the grave of Harry and Ethal Butcher in Shirehampton Cemetery, I have previously posted about their grave here

1921 Census

In 1921 Henry Butcher died, this is the 1921 census showing his widow living in the same house they moved into in the late 1880’s.

Sarah A. Butcher – Head – 75 (1846) – Home Duties – Somerset

George H. Gratton – Son-in-law – 41 (1879) – Coal Miner – Old Cleeve, Somerset

Alice E. Gratton – Daughter – 39 (1881) – Home Duties – Somerset

Harold G. Gratton – Grandson – 10 (1910) – Glamorganshire, Wales

Hilda E. Gratton – Granddaughter – 1 (1919) – Glamorganshire, Wales

Albert J. Clarke – Boarder – 27 (1894) – Steel Work Labourer – Frome, Somerset

John W. Stone – Boarder – 19 (1902) – Steel Work Labourer – Holloway, London

Class: RG15; Piece: 11910; Schedule: 43;

This census shows that Sarah’s daughter and her family are visiting.

Sarah Butcher died in 1938 aged 92 and is buried in Shirehampton Cemetery with her husband Henry.

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Accidentally found a relatives grave

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In researching for a new grave visit video I visited Shirehampton Cemetery to try and find my three-times great-grand parents Henry and Sarah Ann Butcher.

With my initial research into the family I knew that Henry Butcher was born in 1846 in Easton-in-Gordano, Somerset to Thomas and Eliza Butcher. Henry Butcher married Sarah Ann Bull in 1867 and had had eight children by 1892.

Searching on the Bristol and Avon Family History Societies website I searched the Inscriptions for Shirehampton Cemetery. I found two hits, one for Sarah Ann Butcher (widow) and an Ernest Edward and Mark Biddle Butcher; and one for Harry and Ethel Butcher and John Butcher (son).

On my first visit the the cemetery I found the grave for the second Butcher family. Two further visits to the cemetery and I have not yet found the location for the first family.

Back home I researched this family further and found an entry on the 1939 register for Harry and Ethel Butcher with their children Ernest and Doreen.

The children’s birth certificates show that their mothers maiden name was Buller, and there is a marriage between Harry Butcher and Ethel Buller in 1919.

It seems like Harry and Ethel’s son Ernest was known by his middle name of John. There is a death recorded in 1971 of the name ‘Ernest John Butcher’ and with the correct birth date.

I just need to order the marriage certificate for Harry and Ethel to confirm my findings and that this is my two-times great-grand uncle and auntie.

I have also contacted Canford Cemetery office to enquire about the grave of Sarah Ann Butcher, I should have an answer in the next week or two.

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Changing of Web Hosting

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I was going to post about my visit to the BAFHS Family History Fair, but it was cancelled due to a lack of exhibitors. Hopefully it will be back in the spring of 2023

I am about to change my web hosting, so this will be the last post until October.

See you then

Update

As posted over on my main blog, the change of hosting is complete.

I’ll be back next week with new family tree posts.

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Unlucky in my search for graves

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In my search for graves I have had mixed results when I arrive at the cemetery or graveyard as to whether I will find the plot I am looking for.

My first unsuccessful find is my great-grand uncle William Rogers. The information I received from a relative on Ancestry said that he had died in February 1939 and that he was buried in Canford Cemetery.

One visit to the Canford Cemetery office later, I now know that the grave is located within the V section, which has been designated as their wildlife, and as such is cleared less often.

Using the provided map I believe I located the area the grave is in, but I couldn’t find a headstone. There was some nearby, but they were covered in thick brambles and I was unable to locate William’s grave.

On the same trip to the Canford Cemetery offices I enquired about the grave of my two-times great-grandparents George and Mary Rogers buried at Greenbank Cemetery.

Upon arrival at Greenbank Cemetery I aimlessly wandered around until I phoned the ground keeper who helped me find the location of the grave. It was at this point I was told that in this part of the cemetery many of the graves had the headstones removed.

Location of the grave of George and Mary Rogers, Greenbank Cemetery

Back home I sent off an email Canford Cemetery Offices asking what had happened to the headstone, and this was their response:

For certain sections where all graves were out of their lease, masonry was removed and disposed of, and a log was taken of the details of what was present on the grave. In this instance there was not a headstone on the grave at the time of the removals, but there was a marble kerbset, a marble ashler, four posts, a vase, and a broken concrete base. There was no inscription recorded on any of the masonry.

In a later email I was told that “the last time these removals took place was in the late 1980s”. Great, almost 40 years too late!

My final grave hunt was for my three-times great-grandparents George and Elizabeth Lambourne. I had found a source saying that they were buried in St. Mary’s Church in Shirehampton.

As the church is only a 5 minute drive from where I live I thought I would go down and search the graveyard.

Nothing.

I emailed the church office asking if they had any information about the grave I was looking for, and this was their response:

I have checked the names provided below and have discovered that your ancestors are certainly buried here.

Back in 1928 the church building was burnt down and a new building was built, which was completed and dedicated in January 1930. As the parish had grown substantially since the times of the original building, a larger church was built, at a different angle to the original building. This unfortunately meant that some graves were covered over by the building, and some gravestones were moved.

Your ancestors , among others, are now buried beneath this church and are commemorated in our Memorial Chapel. The names of all those whose graves are beneath the church are engraved in a memorial there. I have just found your ancestors’ names on that memorial.

I have just taken a photo of the memorial and a closer one of their names, since I expect this will be of interest to you. It is really sunny here at the moment, so there is some reflection coming through the Memorial Chapel window that is affecting the quality of the photos. If you would like me to try again and send other photos through, please let me know and I will try again on another day.

St. Mary’s Church Memorial Chapel

What a result, I now know for certain that my ancestors are buried there and why I couldn’t find the grave

So far these have been the only times I’ve not been able to find a grave, but the further back I go the more unlikely I will be able to find the graves I am looking for.

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Visiting the grave of Frederick and Eliza. Ann Lambourne

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In this video I am at Shirehampton Cemetery to visit the grave of my two-times great-grandparents Frederick and Eliza Ann Lambourne.

Frederick was born in 1871 to George and Elizabeth Lambourne, he was the youngest of three children.

Eliza Ann Lambourne, née Butcher, was born in 1876 she was the second child of eight children born to Henry and Sarah Butcher.

In 1898 Frederick married Elizabeth Butcher, and by 1920 had seven children. Sadly their third child, George Henry died in 1914 aged 8 years.

More details about Frederick’s life can be found here.

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Visiting the grave of Emily Flay

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In this video I am visiting the grave of my two-times great-grand auntie Emily Flay (nee Rogers)

She was born in 1881 to George and Mary Rogers, she was the second child of six children.

In 1900 she married Archibald Flay and had two children by 1908. She died in 1937 aged 53 years old.

In 1938 her widower married Lily Ann Way, who then died in 1954 aged 70. Archibald then died in 1955. They are both buried with Emily Flay.

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Hannah Lambourne (1811-1861)

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Hannah Lamboure née Brace was born in 1811 in Weston, Bath. According to her marriage certificate her father was John Brace who’s profession was listed as a Cooper.

1841 Census

This is the first census returns in 1841, she is living in Westbury-on-Trym, Bristol

Hester Powell – 35 (1806) – Female – Not born in county

Hannah Brace – 30 (1811) – Female – Not born in county

Bridget Turner – 25 (1816) – Female – Not born in county

Class: HO107; Piece: 359; Book: 4; Enumeration District: 6; Folio: 17; Page: 29; Line: 19; GSU roll: 288771

1851 Census

In 1848 Hannah married George Lambourne.

George Lambourne – Head – 34 (1817) – Coachman – Wantage, Berkshire

Hannah Lambourne – Wife – 41 (1810) – Bath, Somerset

Louisa Brace – Visitor – 43 (1808) – Bath, Somerset

Maria Reeve – Visitor – 54 (1797) – Woold Northumberland

Class: HO107; Piece: 1955; Folio: 82; Page: 15; GSU roll: 87355

1861 Census

George Lambourne – Head – 40 (1821) – Coachman – Wantage, Berkshire

Hannah Lambourne – Wife – 50 (1811) – Weston, Somerset

Class: RG 9; Piece: 1740; Folio: 25; Page: 10; GSU roll: 542860

In May 1861 Hannah died at the ago of 50. She is buried in the Holy Trinity parish church of Westbury-on-Trym.

Grave of Hannah Lambourne

In 1862 George Lambourne married Elizabeth Young. Their story continues continues with this post.